Friday, March 4, 2022

Louis Armstrong & King Oliver

CAVEAT EMPTOR: Just to be clear: I can't imagine that anyone other than me would be interested in this information, but hey, it's a big world, so who knows? Also, it helps me immensely to get things out of my head. When I don't, they often walk holes in the carpet, and I've got enough bare floors already. So this.


I've been reading about Louis Armstrong in André Hodeir's Jazz: Its Evolution and Essence, and that led me to Ken Burns' Jazz Episode 2, "The Gift," wherein I heard, among other things, that Louis' first recorded work was "Chimes Blues." This was recorded with Joseph Nathan "King" Oliver, who was an early influence on and mentor to Louis. 

So I decided to jump down that rabbit hole.

First I listened to "Chimes Blues" on YouTube. To be honest, I didn't find it to be all that interesting...but I'm aware that that might well say more about my ignorance than anything else. And besides, it was Louis Armstrong's first recording, FF'sS. 

The documentary didn't go into much detail about other early recordings by Louis, so I thought I'd look into that.

I found an album on  hoopla  , Louis Armstrong And King Oliver, and thought that it was The Complete Recordings...in part because there were 25 titles, which seemed pretty hefty, and in part because there were two takes on two of the songs ("Mabel's Dream" and "Southern Stomp"). 

But I wasn't tired of falling down this r-hole yet, so I Googled around a bit until I found The Louis Armstrong Discography: The Early Years (1901 - 1924) (at http://michaelminn.net/discographies/armstrong/early-years/index.html). It only took a glance to see that there were more than 25 titles listed here.  Which made me wonder what hadn't been included on the Louis Armstrong and King Oliver album. So I started doing a comparison between the tracks on the album and the sessions listed on the website. Here's what came of that:


Tracks 1 through 18 kind of match up...but there are some missing sessions: June 22 through 29, 1923, during which 7 tracks were recorded; the October 5, 1923 session included another 4 tracks which were not included on this album; October 5 through 15, 1923, during which 8 tracks were recorded; October 15, 1923, during which 3 tracks were recorded; and October 16, 1923, during which 3 tracks were recorded. That's another 25 more tracks! Also, as you can see from my annotations, there's a big time gap between the tracks from the session labelled 9/?/1923 and 10/17/1924. And when I looked at the details on the Discography website, it became clear why: those sessions were not recorded with King Oliver. (Hence the asterisks.) Why would these 7 non-King Oliver tracks be included on an album that was identified as Louis Armstrong and King Oliver? I don't know. It would make a little more sense if they'd run out of material and wanted to give the buyer a little more bang for the buck, but clearly that's not so--with 25 other King Oliver tracks in the can. And whatever happened to truth in advertising, anyway?

So for the record, here are the dates of the other sessions with King Oliver and the tracks recorded on those dates:


June 22 - 29, 1923
Snake Rag
Sweet Lovin’ Man
High Society Rag
Sobbin’ Blues
Where Did You Stay Last Night?
Dipper Mouth Blues
Jazzin’ Babies Blues

October 5, 1923
Missing tracks:
When You Leave Me Alone to Pine
That Sweet Something
Someday Sweetheart
If You Want My Heart (You’ve Got to ‘low It, Babe)

October 5 - 15, 1923
Buddy’s Habit
Tears
I Ain't Gonna Tell Nobody
Room Rent Blues
Riverside Blues
Sweet Baby Doll
Working Man Blues
Mabel’s Dream

October 15, 1923
Chattanooga Stomp
Junkman Blues
Londen (Cafe) Blues

October 16, 1923
London (Cafe) Blues
Camp Meeting Blues
New Orleans Stomp

After these sessions, Louis Armstrong recorded with Fletcher Henderson and His Orchestra
(October 7, 1924, etc.)

Of course I couldn't let it stop there. I went looking for a Complete Louis Armstrong and King Oliver Recordings package, and very quickly found this lovely thing:


The Complete Gennett Recordings 1923. That seems pretty clear, doesn't it? Of course, it does stipulate that these were recordings made for the Gennett label, so that could be a kicker. And maybe that's the explanation for this:


The same tracks...in the same order...as on the album I found on 
 hoopla . But only the first 13 of them.

So now I'm wondering...since The Complete Gennett Recordings 1923 isn't complete...are the other recordings available elsewhere?

I kept looking. I found this--


                                               --a 1993 Jazz Heritage reissue, and it had 25 tracks...but it's the same stuff that's on the  hoopla  album. 

Eventually I found King Oliver's Creole Jazz Band The Complete Set--


--which had 41 tracks...and as I started to compare the tracks to the Discography list I thought that I had found the real Complete Recordings at last...but no. It was close, but no cigar. Here's the breakdown:

April 5, 1923

1-1 Just Gone         2:38

1-2 Canal Street Blues 2:28

1-3 Mandy Lee Blues 2:11

1-4 I'm Going Away To Wear You Off My Mind 2:52

1-5 Chimes Blues         2:55


April 6, 1923

1-6 Weather Bird Rag    2:42

1-7 Dipper Mouth Blues    2:30

1-8 Froggie Moore         3:02

1-9 Snake Rag         3:00


June 22 - 29, 1923

1-10 Snake Rag         3:13

1-11 Sweet Lovin' Man 2:43

1-12 High Society Rag 2:53

1-13 Sobbin' Blues 3:11

1-14 Where Did You Stay Last Night 2:29

1-15 Dipper Mouth Blues        2:13

1-16 Jazzin' Babies' Blues 3:00


October 5, 1923

1-17 Alligator Hop 2:23

1-18 Zulu's Ball 2:31

1-19 Working Man Blues     2:12

1-20 Krooked Blues             2:51


This session also included (1) “When You Leave Me Alone to Pine,” (2) “That Sweet Something, Dear,” (3) Someday Sweetheart,” and (4) If You Want My Heart (You’ve Got to ‘low It, Babe”


October 15, 1923

2-1 Chattanooga Stomp 2:57

2-2 London (Café) Blues 2:44


This session also included (1) “Junkman Blues”


October 16, 1923

2-3 Camp Meeting Blues 2:58

2-4 New Orleans Stomp 2:57


This session also included (1) “London (Cafe) Blues”


October 5 - 15, 1923

2-5 Buddy's Habit 3:02

2-6 Tears 3:07

2-7 I Ain't Gonna Tell Nobody 3:19

2-8 Room Rent Blues 2:48

2-9 Riverside Blues 2:52

2-10 Sweet Baby Doll 2:52

2-11 Working Man Blues 2:56

2-12 Mabel's Dream 2:51


Early September, 1923 (?)

2-13 Mabel's Dream (Tk. 1) 2:48

2-14 Mabel's Dream (Tk. 2) 2:46

2-15 The Southern Stomps (Tk. 1) 2:39

2-16 The Southern Stomps (Tk. 2) 2:42

2-17 Riverside Blues 2:54 


2-18 Kiss Me Sweet 3:18

2-19 Construction Gang 3:09

2-20 King Porter Stomp 2:33

2-21 Tom Cat 2:48



So there are 6 tracks not included on King Oliver's Creole Jazz Band The Complete Set:

(1) “When You Leave Me Alone to Pine” 

(2) “That Sweet Something, Dear” 

(3) “Someday Sweetheart” 

(4) “If You Want My Heart (You’ve Got to ‘low It, Babe)”

(5) “Junkman Blues”

(6) “London (Cafe) Blues” This one would be hard to identify since a version of it recorded on a previous day was issued.


Also, I feel obliged to note that the last four tracks on the collection--
"Kiss Me Sweet," "Construction Gang," "King Porter Stomp," & "Tom Cat" do not appear in the Discography...but that seems to be (looking at the personnel listed for this collection) because Louis didn't play on those tracks...and since this was marketed as a King Oliver thing, that makes sense.

So for Louis Armstrong completists, the good news is that this collection includes all 18 of the tracks previously identified as the "complete" LA & KO recordings, and adds another 19 tracks.

The bad news is (1) that are STILL 6 tracks "out there"...and (2) that the copies I found online were all pretty pricey...$60 to $80. If you're a streaming kind of guy or gal & you don't hate Amazon as much as I do, you can get an mp3 set of the whole shebang from them for a mere $17.98, which is one hell of a deal. As for me, since I'm (1) not streamy & (2) do hate Amazon, I needed another option...and you'll never guess where I found it. Hint: it wasn't on  hoopla . Another hint: It wasn't on Internet Archive. It was 🥁🥁🥁🥁🥁 at the Louisville Free Public Library. I put in my request and it should be winging my way in a few days. Thank you, LFPL. 

Again.

As for those "missing" six tracks...

1. "When You Leave Me Alone To Pine" includes this information: 
"[master 11632-ABC rejected]" 

2. "That Sweet Something, Dear" includes this:  "[master 11634-C]
Gennett 5276 unissued"

3. "Someday Sweetheart" includes this: "[master 11637-ABC rejected]"

4. "If You Want My Heart (You've Got To 'low It, Babe)" includes this: " [master 11639-B]"

5. "Junkman Blues" includes this: "[master 81301-1,2,3 Columbia rejected]"

6. And the other (first recorded) version of "London (Cafe) Blues" includes this: [master 81302-1,2,3 Columbia rejected]"

A pattern begins to emerge. And guess what? No other tracks from these sessions bear the words "rejected" or "unissued." So my guess would be that these tracks no longer exist. That still leaves "If You Want My Heart (You've Got to 'low It, Babe," though. And when I went looking for that, I found another interesting website, Hot Club (at https://www.hotclubny.com/kingoliver1), and when I ran the this title--and the other five as well, just to double check--it gave "If You Want My Heart" the unissued tag as well.

So so far as I can tell, King Oliver's Creole Jazz Band The Complete Set really is The Complete Louis Armstrong and King Oliver. The others are about half complete at best. And there are several collections out there which say they are compilations of Louis Armstrong and King Oliver, but they actually include tracks which are not from both of them. Lying bastards.

So there it is.

No, no...thank YOU.


P.S. Oh...I just took a harder look at the Hot Club website, and it's even better than I thought. Not only is it a discography...you can also click on the songs which have a  symbol and the song will play! This is a super cool website, well worth checking out as soon as possible.

P.P.S. I would not confess to the amount of time I spent on this for fear of revealing the depths of my OCD depravity, but you know what...in these days of fear and loathing, while I was chasing down these songs I forgot about all of that shit and just enjoyed myself. So there's that.


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